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Sensual Massage vs Full Service

Sensual Massage vs Full Service
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ManBehavingBadly

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I've seen a couple of comments lately along the lines of "why pay $x for SM when you can get FS for the same price?".

From my perspective SM and FS are totally different experiences and I don't view SM as worth less than FS. I use both of these services. Sometimes I want one, and sometimes the other but price doesn't really factor into that.

Sensual Massage (or any massage actually) is completely about me. I can just lie there and enjoy it without doing anything. It can be a totally selfish experience if that's what I want. Needless to say, I don't approach a FS booking the same way, and care as much about their pleasure as mine.

How do others view the difference between the two services? And should SM always be a fair bit cheaper than FS?
 
I like to mix it up. It would be hard to argue that FS is not better than SM because of course it is. But SM can still be a thrill with all the build up, especially with a new girl. I gotta be honest when I do a FS booking it is usually 100% about me anyway, I would be way more giving if I wasn't paying for it. :ROFLMAO:

I think SM should be cheaper than FS because you don't get the pussy prize lol. The thing is sometimes you go to a SM and end up spending a lot on extras which amounts to about the same price as a FS in which you could have got everything and more. I mean an hour SM at Perfect Touch is $250 and you can get an hour Girlfriend Lite at Dollshouse for $280 - thats $30 more. Even if you go to the less expensive Debonairs and buy one extra then its $240 and then for a mere $40 more you could have got an hour at Dollshouse lol.
 
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What? If my maths checks out, you’re getting extras at Debonairs for $50? For what exactly? Even for the most cursory of extras at Debonairs, I’m out $100+. As I suspected, there’s a sliding scale for those who infer they’re richer than Elon Musk despite the shabby appearance suggesting otherwise. (Unlike SR, love that egalitarian fixed-price menu, with its all-you-can-eat options).
 
They are different experiences.
If you enjoy the experience, then whatever the fee was is 'worth it'.
If all you are concentrating on is how much you are getting for X amount of money, then I'd argue that to a degree you're missing the point (any enjoyable experience is essentially priceless, even though a price is put on every experience be it punting or scuba diving).
I think it is valid to look at a fee and say "that is more than I can justifiably afford", but I don't like the "She's dreaming to charge that much for X, Y, Z" as at that point I think you are boiling down a fellow human being into a commodity.

I've had enjoyable SM experiences, and I've had less enjoyable one.
Likewise I've had enjoyable FS experiences, and less enjoyable ones.
It's all horses for courses.
I'm not really sure you should try and compare the two as equal experiences, as they are not.
 
I never tried SM.

While I imagine it'd be a more relaxing service....

But if they cost the same as FS, and the girl also offer SM service, why not just go for FS, get a message, and should you change your mind, you got the option?

Of course, that only applies if they cost the same as your example stated. Just more options to your bucks.
 
A lot of clients tell me they prefer SM to FS, or only book SM. As ManBehavingBadly pointed out in SM all they have to do is relax and receive and the masseuse does all the work. Having provided both, this is why I find SM a lot more draining than FS and don't think a lower charge is justifiable.

Besides that intercourse can be so impersonal. I find providing SM so much more intimate, and the men I see tend to be seeking that in particular.
 
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Poor old daok is getting rinsed LOL. I think different girls have different prices, plus depends what extra you get. My favourite is of course COB. I never go for BJs which seem to be priced about $100-150. That would make it the same price as full service... so you're better off just going somewhere for full service where you get a BJ inclusive plus get to have sex with them.

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Sure... but the point being that most punters would probably agree FS is a better experience so if you are going to pay about the same money, you're better off just going for the more fulfilling experience. I couldn't survive on just sensual massages, I require pussy.
 
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Might have to disagree on that point.
I had a couple of FS punts the fee for which was at least the price of an SM at Debs with all the trimmings.

I walked away from one thinking "why did I pay that to just have the girl tell me she had a late night partying the night before, and that she wanted a nap (wanting a nap was a constant subject of conversation for the next 45 minutes (it was supposed to be a 1 hour booking)".
Now I don't blame the girl for feeling tired, we've all tied one on the night before and just wanted to sleep it off the next day.
But perhaps she should have just taken the day off?
Lord knows how many others had the same experience that day.

I walked away from another, where the extras negotiated for in advance during booking, and paid for promptly on arrival, was not provided, because the girl wasted a large portion of the session.

Both were with different well regarded establishments, and if using the 'bang for buck metric' neither was particularly worth what was paid considering the lackluster experience.

Where as, I went to Debs one time, thinking that I would just get a basic SM, no frills and no exra fee.
The girl talked me into trying her full on extras package (which bumped the price up to that of an FS at most establishments) and it was fantastic.
I walked away from that booking, thinking back to the two I mentioned above, thinking the girl gave it her all and it was so much more enjoyable than either FS, and again if using the bang for buck metric, was worth every cent.

Anyway, all I'm saying is SM and FS are different.
Equally enjoyable when everything goes well, but different.
And you shouldn't really try and do the whole 'FS is better value for money' thing.
Because a) it kind of turns a person into a commodity, which is not a good way to think of other people, and b) not always true.
Now you can prefer one over the other because you enjoy one experience over the other, and that's totally valid.
But either when the SW is engaged, and knows her shit, is worth whatever they are charging, IMHO.
 
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I see what you are saying. But we are talking about sex workers here that we are paying for sex services... its a little hard not to commodify them. In fact they are commodifying themselves aren't they?

I'm just pointing out there is a reason why full service is always more expensive than sensual massage, when you adjust for the difference in price between individual providers. And if it is not quite clear why that is... its because the lady is understood to be offering more by allowing you to enter her body with your penis. Which is undoubtedly a much more personal and intimate than wrapping her hand around your cock. Even if there is a difference between ladies in how intimate they make either experience. Statistically I've probably had just as much good full service bookings as I have had good sensual massage bookings, and just as much bad/mediocre ones.

I mean I like both sensual massage and full service but if they were priced exactly the same I would probably go full service 90%+ of the time.
 
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I don't think that they are commodfying themselves, no.
After all, we all have to do something to earn a living.
I don't know about you, but I don't consider myself a commodity, I consider myself a human being.
So I will stick with not thinking that an SW commodifies themself.
But that's an aside point.

Agreed, basic SM is more often than not less cost than FS, not always, and not usually once you're adding in extras (that are intimate) but at the very baseline yes.
However, by the same token, FS in an Asian run establishment is often/almost always lower cost than a lot of SMs.
Does that mean that we simply value 'getting inside' an Asian woman who can't really communicate in the same language less?
Well I suppose that on the face of things the answer would be yes, which says a few ugly things about NZ society, sadly.
That said your point about the cost difference is for the most part irrefutable, I'm just not sure that really answers the orginal question of 'which is better', it simply shows that SWs for the most part value the two types of activity differently.
Perhaps a point granular enough that we just diverge in our interpretation.

Like you, my statistics would be even.
In my case, thankfully just a couple bad/mediocre in either direction, and the rest enjoyable.
For my own part, I tend to go with the service type offered by an SW that I enjoy spending time with, and since I have a limited budget I tend to stick with someone for quite a while.
So in 2023/24 I really enjoyed spending time with an SW that only provided SM, and so the vast majority of punts in that timeframe were SM. Her service became increasingly popular and therefore it became more and more difficult to make schedules align.
In 2024/25 I happened across and really hit it off with an SW who only provides FS, and so the vast majority of punts in that timeframe were FS. Her schedule is more flexible, so now her service is the one I frequent.
It is more about the personalities than the acts in my case, so I don't have a preference in either direction.
So if the FS SW suddenly changed to SM and only SM I wouldn't really find it a problem, because for the most part the fee is to spend time with her, not necessarily get off in one way over another.
Horses for courses though, right?
 
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I’m pretty sure Deb’s girl pricing are fluid or dependent on the client. I’ve messaged people here the cost of extras and have shown up to bookings only to get another price lol (occasionally better). It’s fine though as they can charge whatever they want depending on the situation. It’s be nice though if clients could start charging for extras to even things out lol
 
Can't blame them for milking the extras to make more money I guess. It's probably to similar to how sugar babies adjust the price based on how old the client is since if they are older they are likely to have more money. They sometimes seem to decrease it the more attracted they are to you too. Some girls might just have flat rates.
 
I personally find FS a bit grim, especially now I’m approaching 60… (but from the wrong direction!)

Even if my livelihood wasn’t dependent on reading people, it would be hard not to notice a lack of enthusiasm in a young woman to have an older male stranger enter her… kind of rapey IMO. Does he show her that the old dog can still run with the wolves? Or just get it the fuck over with – highly likely to be her preference.

Then there’s the spectre of the dreaded wiener wrapper… not an older gentleman’s friend.

By contrast, SM is way less pressure and way more fun. The girl can go at her own pace and within her comfort level. There’s always pleasant conversation, usually laughter and plenty of skin-to-skin contact and no latex spoiling the fun. (Still never seen a dental dam, thank God). And giving a guy a hand job for money is hardly the most harrowing of experiences… I’ve done it myself in my time, and I turned out okay… oh.
 
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Both correct, ish.

There’s countless things that could go into a girl changing up her extras prices or availabilities, week to week, day to day, client to client.
Including but not limited to; how she’s feeling that day for each extra (physically/mentally/her cycle/etc), how clean the client is (or isn’t), how polite/respectful the client is, if they’re a regular or new client, how much time is available vs what’s being asked of her.
 
I think most of the men who do SM but don't want to do FS are attached/married and they rationalize SM as less harmful or even not cheating. And I can see their point, they are just getting a penis massage after all... Outside of sex work the overwhelming majority probably still value full sex over just a massage though.

I have come to recently experience the luxury of having sensual massage and full service in one booking - the best of both worlds. Which you can do at some agencies such as The Apartment (sorry Debs). Definitely some amazing girls at Debs and other SM only agencies worth visiting just for a massage though.
 
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