Untangling the Knots!

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Alright, you fabulous folks of our delightfully spicy forum—providers and punters, I’m diving into the deep end of a question that’s got me more confused than a first-timer at a kink convention!
The great sensual massage (SM) enigma is driving me up the wall, and I need your collective brilliance to sort it out.
I’ve never had an SM myself, but in my head,
it’s either a legit, knot-kneading massage with a naked provider and a cheeky happy ending
or
a flirty, less therapeutic rub with “extras” that’s basically full service minus penetration.
Which is it? Or is it both? Help!
![confused-wat[1].gif confused-wat[1].gif](https://sexforum.co.nz/data/attachments/0/768-28c09d60f4ab32ebf2dd249b4b225603.jpg)
The core of the confusion is this:
Recent threads (like prawnstar’s post about escorts ditching SM for pricier full service) show the chaos:
Prawnstar crave SM’s unique vibe, but Sahara say SM a physical grind for less pay when compared to FS.
JohnnyPunter noted some providers find SM boring, while Trible’s had SMs ranging from “shockingly bad” to specialist-level bliss.
The mismatch is real—punters book expecting a steamy, skilled rub, while providers might offer a quick tease, or vice versa.
It’s like ordering “spicy” food and getting either a mild taco or a five-alarm chili!
Add full service with massage to the mix, and it’s even murkier—is the massage part a serious knead, a flirty prelude, or barely a pat on the back?
So, let’s crack this open:
All opinions are welcome, from the wildest to the most practical!
Strict ground rules:
Keep it respectful and curious.
No whinging, no bashing, and absolutely no belittling anyone’s perspective.
This is a safe space to share, learn, and maybe chuckle a bit.
So, spill the tea—what’s the real deal with sensual massage, and how do we untangle this knot?

The great sensual massage (SM) enigma is driving me up the wall, and I need your collective brilliance to sort it out.
I’ve never had an SM myself, but in my head,
it’s either a legit, knot-kneading massage with a naked provider and a cheeky happy ending
or
a flirty, less therapeutic rub with “extras” that’s basically full service minus penetration.
Which is it? Or is it both? Help!
![confused-wat[1].gif confused-wat[1].gif](https://sexforum.co.nz/data/attachments/0/768-28c09d60f4ab32ebf2dd249b4b225603.jpg)
The core of the confusion is this:
- Is sensual massage just a therapeutic massage (think muscle-relaxing, knot-busting skills) but with a naked provider and a happy ending tacked on?
Or is it a distinct vibe—more about sensual, teasing touches with agreed-upon “extras” (hand stuff, body slides, etc.) that feels like full service without the penetration?
- If a therapeutic massage provider goes full nude and throws in extras, does that automatically make it a sensual massage?
Or does SM have its own unique flavor, separate from therapeutic skills?
- If therapeutic massage is defined by deep-tissue, muscle-soothing work, what defines sensual massage?
Is it the provider’s intent, the client’s experience, or a specific set of moves?
Recent threads (like prawnstar’s post about escorts ditching SM for pricier full service) show the chaos:
Prawnstar crave SM’s unique vibe, but Sahara say SM a physical grind for less pay when compared to FS.
JohnnyPunter noted some providers find SM boring, while Trible’s had SMs ranging from “shockingly bad” to specialist-level bliss.
The mismatch is real—punters book expecting a steamy, skilled rub, while providers might offer a quick tease, or vice versa.
It’s like ordering “spicy” food and getting either a mild taco or a five-alarm chili!
Add full service with massage to the mix, and it’s even murkier—is the massage part a serious knead, a flirty prelude, or barely a pat on the back?
So, let’s crack this open:
- Providers, how do you define sensual massage vs. therapeutic massage vs. full service with massage?
- Is SM a proper massage with a naughty twist, or more about sensual vibes with extras?
- If you’re naked and adding extras to a therapeutic massage, does it become SM, or is there a line?
- What makes SM distinct in your mind, and why might you prefer (or ditch) it?
- Punters, what do you expect from each?
- Is SM a therapeutic-grade massage with a naked provider and a happy ending, or a lighter, sexier rub with extras?
- If a therapeutic massage goes nude with extras, do you call it SM?
- What’s the key ingredient that screams “sensual” to you?
All opinions are welcome, from the wildest to the most practical!
Strict ground rules:
Keep it respectful and curious.
No whinging, no bashing, and absolutely no belittling anyone’s perspective.
This is a safe space to share, learn, and maybe chuckle a bit.
So, spill the tea—what’s the real deal with sensual massage, and how do we untangle this knot?