Chloe - Zenzone - SM

Chloe - Zenzone - SM
crystal said:
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I understand you are going into damage control/marketing mode now to protect the reputation of your business. When I say that light touching is included at Debonairs it is LIGHT touching, I'm sure the girls there will not accept any rough play (unless it is some kind of service they offer) and set any punters right if they are too rough. Some girls there also let you know their boundaries such as not touching their nipples or piercings if they have them. But still light touching is part of the standard sensual massage package at Debonairs. I like how you twist this around and put the blame on "one bad punter", great strategy. However I fail to see how one punter being too rough is the reason why Crystals does not include it in the base rate, I'm sure Debonairs have had many bad punters there as well but haven't made the decision to exclude it. Let's be realistic here, you or specific girls have decided to charge extra for it to increase profits, which is understandable. However, as the Mangeress you might want to reconsider and include it in your standard massage again to be more competitive otherwise clients will likely prefer to go elsewhere. I'm sure this would be good for your business. It would probably be better financially for the girls working there as well as they would probably get more bookings. The majority of people do expect some kind of receptive touching as part of a sensual massage, even if they do have to pay extra for it. They are not going for a standard therapeutic massage at the physio after all. Instead of getting all defensive and spiteful and putting the blame on punters with a lack of respect, maybe consider using the feedback to improve your service and increase your business as a result.
 
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JohnnyPunter said:
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There seems to be some misunderstanding here. LIGHT touching of breasts is included in our base rate but some ladies don't want their nipples touched or sucked and some will allow this for extra. Most will charge extra for a boob job or cum on boobs. Even for clients who pay extra you still shouldn't bruise the lady's boobs. I was just chatting with ladies now and Jessie currently has bruises on her boobs from a client last week, so unfortunately it's not just "one bad client".
 
crystal said:
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Okay so what you are saying is light touching is included in the base rate at Crystal's from all girls apart from Adrianna and Serena? As when I had a booking with Adrianna I very lightly touched the side of her breast and she stated it would be an extra $50 for that. I might have actually paid it too, but had already spent my last $50 on another extra.
 
It's definitely on a per client basis, there's ya paying pest, and there's ya paying gentlefulla....the gentle fulla generally gets a little extra by being a GC, the pest...not so much.
Boobies are to be admired l, caressed and kissed, not groped! No one expects to have rough touching included, nor should the ladies.
Jaysus, it ain't complicated!
 
Well said Polarbear, imagine if the lady grabbed your balls and squeezed and squeezed until you cried out in pain, just show respect to the girls and it'll be returned in spades, maybe not on the first visit to see her but if you return your previous respect for her will likely be remembered and appreciated.

On the other hand any disrespect will also be remembered and you'll be treated as you should expect to be treated!!
 
Obviously there are some ladies that are going to try and rake up the extras regardless of whether a client is gentle or not. How many Asian sensual massuesses try to load extra upon extra during a session. Extra for happy ending, extra for nude, extra for touch etc.

When I went to Crystal's I was nothing but gentle and respectful. Some of the replies here seem to imply that I wasn't. I am always very respectful and gentle during a sensual massage, and I've never really had a problem during the countless bookings I have had. The girl was just trying to squeeze some extra money out of me. Which is totally understandable, it's there job and that's what they are there for.

The whole point of the disagreement here is whether Crystal's includes light respectful touching of the massuesses breasts or not in their base rate. To be honest, from the replies, it's still not quite clear. If they do have a shop wide policy, it seems some of the girls are not following it.

Let's not get derailed by a discussion on bad, rough and/or disrespectful punters. As has been established that really has nothing to do with whether light respectful touching of the breasts is included in the base rate or charged as an extra.
 
Yup, thanks for getting the discussion back on track Johnny.
Some of the responses are at cross-purposes to what we're trying to get clarification on. To conflate whether respectful light touching of the breasts, as is standard at most other SM joints charging a similar base rate, with the likes of grabbing "your balls and squeezed and squeezed until you cried out in pain" is disingenuous.
 
customer said:
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As is making out that my comment was directed at all and sundry, clearly Johnny is not one of the disrespectful ones and is simply trying to get a clear answer as to whether respectful touching is included in the base price. I think you'll find that while it's theoretically included it's not a given as Crystals management has no control over what happens in the room during the booking, only afterwards and maybe it's a case of contacting management afterwards and explaining that extra cash was requested for something that you'd been led to believe was included in the standard price, then hopefully it can be dealt with.
There's definitely been girls at Debonairs that have not permitted boob touching at all just as there are others that allow touching but no nipple sucking, frustrating at the time as there's only so many things that you can remember to ask before starting the session!
It's one of the advantages of seeing the same girl more than once if you were happy with the service the first time round, you can then build up a bit of a rapport and hopefully then be 'given' more perks
 
Find that surprising about Miho shielding her breasts . I did full service with her , it was very good with multiple positions and I kissed her breasts etc which she didn't mind
 
Polarbear said:
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At least we know they respond to feedback on this forum. Gotta give them credit for that 🤣 I might give them another go when I get the chance.

They have to be competitive because they have Debonairs just down the road and recently that new place "The O Group" opened up in the same area. That's 3 sensual massage places within walking distance of each other fighting for customers.
 
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