Has anyone else also stopped browsing AF ever since discovering this forum?

Has anyone else also stopped browsing AF ever since discovering this forum?
I still think a lot of adultforum readers and posters are still unaware of this forum. I remember the first time I heard about it I was browsing adultforum and they were criticism the "other forum" while refusing to name it. I spent like 2 hours trying to find the "other forum" they were referring to lol
 
I have only lurked on AF. The atmosphere isn't as welcoming as the seemingly diehard fans on that side seem to think it is. A few posts in and I see that the general view is that everyone on here has been banned from AF and that we are stupid.

it goes without saying but I think having the freedom of speech here is far better than being stifled by a DND list.

I cannot remember how many escorts that I have thought about seeing or trying to find out if this Asian girl from Myangels is legit or not only to find out she's on some stupid list that they have (probably?) paid for.
 
Having just read that thread on AF, some of them are talking like posters here are saying absolutely vile shit. A lot of what gets said here is the exact same shit said there, or any escort discussion forum. They're acting as though it's corralled group of women beaters. The only difference is there is no DND list. And yes, there is talk here of certain "risky" activities. As though that shit doesn't go on everyday of the week, always has, always will.

Also, though Natasha did defend this place to a degree, she also talks like its a bunch of women hating psychos. "Treat women like objects". Its a business transaction at the end of the day and i can say the man is as much, if not more, treated as an object (i.e. a source of income) as the woman is (i.e a source of pleasure). Whether that is admitted or discussed by either side is one thing, but it is an absolute fact. That doesn't mean treat the lady with disrespect or rudeness. Why would you? Its only going to end badly either with bad service or some bald asian pimp with tattoos beating you up, ornrhe cops called. How am I not treated like an object when i am baited with fake photos, promised and pay for services that are then refused, given half the time that was actually paid for, given shit service all round. Every single punter has experienced that. Sometimes that is more common than the opposite. Men in this transaction are viewed as dipshit, gullible, idiot walking ATMs, but we just have to accept it. For me that's part of the game. Bullshit artists over there acting like they turn up to every booking with a bouquet of flowers and $200 tip. I treat every woman with respect and politeness, pay exactly what they ask, never push on something that they dont want. From the ugliest baited granny, to the 10/10 girl. I'd say 95% of punters are the same. Discussing it in an open and honest way here is only seen as "bad" because AF has made it so the norm is completely restricted.
 
So I had a look over at AF recently and they have been talking about us here. The old guard over there seem to really hate this forum, including myself. I think the most amusing thing about the specific post where they discuss this place the moderators have already deleted some posts.

So what I think the Mods/Admins and old guard over there are failing to grasp is that AF is run by the NZG website. It is skewed in favour of the working girls, and obviously it has a vested interest in siding with working girls since they pay its bills. They use things such as the DND option and even others that advertise on escortify can get negative (or positive) reviews taken down relatively easy. Sex work is a service, I don't think it is good to prevent people reviewing the service they receive.

What the ones in charge over there seem to fail to realise is that with sex work there is two sides to it, the second being the client or punter. Obviously disrespect towards the working girls is a bad thing, but what about disrespect towards clients/punters? There are some bad working girls out there that disrepect their clients in any number of bad ways such as with bad service, or rip them off, or pull a bait and switch. And some men who hire sex workers are just as vunerable as any working girl, a lot of them don't have the confidence to walk away from a B&S scenario or are pressured into going through with a booking/service they don't really want to, or pay for extras they don't want. I think the haters over there that fail to grasp this as they are old jaded working girls or cucks and simps lmao.

So its great that the owner of this forum recoginises that and built this forum for us. And the sense of community here is already much greater in only a few months than it has ever been over there, and AF has been around for decades.
 
I laugh at the responses on the other forum . Its usually a few of the unpopular Kiwi wg's who men can't be bothered paying , because they think they are overpriced . So all they do is winge because asian girls or their pimps make it affordable to see them . Sure some profiles are fake on their sites but there are a lot of pretty ones who are popular in NZ .
The dnd system is pathetic and hides bad service however this is defended by someone who is trying to hide from bad clients etc . Well do another job this job is a huge risk , wg's should work at agencies or with others for protection . Guys who look for natural up to them . If they catch an HPV infection or HIV their problem . Talking about girls who do it makes no difference they look for it anyway
 
AF is still a good resource to use but they are not very welcoming to new members so it is always the same people posting about the same things.
SF is growing, building its identity, might have started with some reviews that got out of hand but I do think see that here anymore and there’s a good variety of reviews as well with different points of view
 
To me, AF seems elitist and unecessarily painful to deal with.

We all work hard for our money and if I want to review a service I have worked hard for and paid for I will do it.

"Please engage before posting a review." -Get fucked

"Deleted." - DND -Get double fucked.

"I only want to read tasteful reviews and not hear about how many times he plunged his rock hard wiener into her gaping meat locker". -Stop reading then

Also, it's the "holier than thou" attitude that bothers me. It doesn't matter.

At the end of the day, I pay for sex. You pay for sex. They pay for sex. We have all paid for sex. Whatever the reason. It doesn't matter.

Everyone wants value for money. Everyone's tastes are different. Some are similar and we would like to know what we are getting into with our money. Especially since the fees are say $300 an hour.

if someone earns $30/hr doing their menial job that means they have to work at least (coz tax) 10hrs to pay a girl for 1 hour of her time.

THAT IS A LONG WORKING DAY. For a wee little fuck. We should at least be able to have a slight idea of what or who we are getting into, right?

Shit. Must be rant o'clock.

Edit: Also love how they assume that everyone here pays for low end services... having been at both ends. Sometimes there is no difference between the two. Just what the girl thinks her time and body is worth. Perfectly fine... I think I need a date with Palmela or something... This is getting me worked up.
 
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There certainly seems to be an attitude among some SWs that the punters don't get to complain because we have no idea what they have to deal with. Yes, obviously a service provider (in any service industry) deals with more idiots and dickheads than a customer, but that doesn't make it OK to be shitty to the customers. I'm fine with SWs voicing their views on the forums. Lets me know who never to see because they will only ever see me as a chump.
 
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That's the thing though. Who are the punters gonna complain to? I imagine most punters want to keep this just as discrete as most SWs.

Who will look after the punter that was lured in on false promises.

What can NZPC do? The Police will say it's a civil case or laugh and silently judge you. Do we go see the Commerce Commission? Do I go to the Disputes Tribunal... Fill out a claim form and have it served to the girl (who has totally used their real name) or the management?

In other service industries you would get your money back or some sorta voucher or someone would help make it fair for everyone if there is a disagreement but I dont think its the same for this one.

Fortunately, I have not had an experience like this but there are probably those out there that have.
 
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