Indian migrants
You clearly didn't understand it, since you still haven't done the one thing that would definitively win you the debate.
Indian migrants
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If u knew the girl u should have slammed him against the wall and told him to fuck off I would have
Not really a tough one for me.... I think the Indian guy gets a punch in the face, for wasting my precious petrol to get to my punt. Yes I have been to SEA many times and seen first hand how many Indian dudes behave with working girls. I like to think I am level headed so given the same set of circumstances as the OP...... it's Mike Tyson left hook.
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Have you stood back and looked at the practicality of what you just said? Or should I say total impracticality.
Of course your comments suggest you buy into the belief that all Indian migrants fit this stereotype. You might want to have a look at that again.
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facts and they fuck to hard . next minute they get a big boot .and thrown out of the room
That's moronic thinking! So by your logic a girl can't put a disclaimer or etiquette page, unless it applies to everyone in a particular group???
In my review of Sierra from lafleur for example. In there, I put a disclaimer about rope safety and consensual practice of BDSM play.
Does that mean to suggest that all people need educating on consent and rope safety? Ofcourse not!
If the disclaimer doesn't apply to you, then just fucking move on!
You are now being retarded! What makes you think I buy into your dumb smart ass premise?
Try to make an actual contribution to the debate if you can!
You have a talent for irony.
Multiple people, not least myself, have debated you, advised you that your idea would not achieve what you think it would.
You don't want debate, or a robust examination of what you are suggesting, you want everybody to agree with your brilliant idea.
The problem being, it is not a brilliant idea without a pretty obvious flaw.
A flaw, that you refuse to acknowledge over and over.
Your use of your review as an example of how great your idea is, doesn't work.
If for no other reason, the purposes between your suggestion and the disclaimer in your review are totally different and do/would not serve the same goals.
Again, I'm not saying that WGs shouldn't put 'be nice' instructions in their ads, in any and all languages, if that is something that they want to do.
They absolutely should if they feel that offers them some form of security or comfort.
What I am saying, and others have mirrored the sentiments in various different ways, is that those kind of instructions will only work on people already inclined to follow the rules laid down by the WG, and thus they are not the target audience.
The target audience are the type of people who will not follow those rules, and thus the instructions will not have the effect that you are suggesting.
You can not like that reasoning all you want, but it holds way more water when compared with the way actual humans work than your waffly therapy talk that in essence says and means nothing.
Also I note that your argument seems at odds with itself.
In one breath you're dragging on about how all people from the south asian continent are reprobates and totally incapable of acting in a civilised manner, then in the next breath you're mooting that WGs should not ban all south asians just because of a few bad apples.
Which is it, A or B?
Are you a white boot lace wearing western chauvinist who dislikes anyone who isn't you (which is how some of your rhetoric reads to anyone familiar with the subject), or a bleeding heart amateur psychologist who wants to drag on about self affirmation and wanting the least number of people excluded as possible (which is how some of the other things you say read)?
It all gets a bit dizzying and confusing after a while.
On the basis of the bipolar to and fro your own posts swing between, I think it very likely that apart from you thinking that any idea you have is without flaw and cannot be argued against, you really don't believe anything and you're just posting to be a contrarian.
All anyone who is arguing with you is really saying is that the person that the thread was originally about wasn't necessarily bad because they were south asian, they were just bad full stop.
Cultural origin is not a sole signifier that a person will be bad, as bad people exist in every culture.
Someone a number of posts back gave you the advice to QED, and they were right.
Even if you are right and every detractor of your ideas is wrong, neither of those things are correct but I digress, you've pretty much had your say, and others have had theirs.
Neither side is going to convince the other, so what are you hoping to gain at this point?
Honestly ask yourself that.
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LMFAO, How the fuck do you know if it works or doesn't work?
Has it ever been tried? Also, I never said all South Asian men are bad people,
I said something to the note of that their culture isn't as modern
or civil as western culture! Namely, their attitude towards women!
Again, emphasis is on their FUCKING CULTURE, NOT THE PERSON!
You assume I'm contradictory because you failed to understand that,
I believe in the changeability of a person, also known by the concept called THE GROWTH MINDSET!
So observing that a certain culture is backwards IS NOT A CONDEMNATION!
Identifying such a cultural problem is a realization that EDUCATION is desperately needed here!
How are you honestly complaining about how I don't ask for a complete ban of an entire group of people?
These Indian folks should have got the memo that sex workers aren't objects to be used and discarded
like a condom, but are people with esteem and value!
An escort who takes effort to clearly identify their boundaries for themselves
and to then express that in clear terms to the clients, would be PROACTIVELY affirming their esteem and signalling to
potential clients, that they are not the doormat that the punter think or want them to be!
Btw, learn that word called Proactive!
Punters in general, but especially Indians (evident by this thread), are people that will take a mile when they are given an inch!
The problematic group of people, the Indian men, should have ideally received such messages about escorts from their
School in sex ed or from their community.
But because they didn't get that memo, they might as well, read it in a simple polite disclaimer in their
own native language! The effect would be far more powerful than just reading it in English!
It should contain a message of basic etiquette, such as wearing of condoms are mandatory, and a sex worker has the right to refuse
service at any point, and anything else that a sex worker or agency might deem important!
It's fairly straight forward really!
And you want to come here and whine over putting a simple little disclaimer like that?
Are you fucking kidding me?
I think the point of difference between you and me, is that your interest lies in redeeming a culture of people
at the expense of the individual, whereas my interest lies in REDEEMING THE INDIVIDUAL AT THE EXPENSE OF THEIR CULTURE!
It's actually your way of looking at things, that leads to chauvinistic behaviour that hard codes a generation of men from wanting to change
or address their behaviour, because society tells them that their culture is valid just for simply existing!
People like you enable problematic people to go on without taking a critical look at their beliefs about women!
Lastly, let's look at the evidence!
You have a fellow punter(OP) testifying first hand about the problematic behaviour of Indian men.
You have working girls putting "No Indians" on their ads (presumably it's effective)
and you have a working girl, "Winter/Rain" outright revealing the secret of how they indirectly vet out Indians through texting!
And you want to say there isn't a cultural problem here???
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I suspect most of the issues are with those that are fresh off the boat. Indians and south Asians that have grown up in NZ are like completely different people compared to FOBs. There should be a way to weed out the former from the latter for WGs.
