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Don’t Record Your Sessions!!
GoddessPiper

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Unless with prior consent and agreement, it is illegal af to record a woman while having sex. I still feel queasy and uneasy after yesterday, but I’m so glad I saw and was able to delete it from everywhere before filing a report. It’s so incredibly violating to recorded without knowledge and consent. We are being vulnerable and sharing intimacy, I know we may want to remember it forever, but your memories will need to be suffice. Please remember to remind the new punters and everyone do their bit to keep each other safe xx
Much love and orgasms x Piper
 
About a year ago, after showering, <redacted>. She apologized and explained that she wasn't really worried about me but she was still feeling freaked out because the previous week a guy <redacted> had filmed her. I gave her a hug and told her I was sorry that had happened to her and <redacted>.

[ Redactions as per the suggestion of @Lillianax to avoid giving anyone any ideas. ]

So I totally get what you're saying Piper, and I'm also sorry that happened to you.
 
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Banana said:
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Most businesses (not just SW businesses!) have security cameras these days and, sadly, there are times when the recordings are necessary. I had a regular a few years ago who was being harassed by an unhinged client and screenshots from the security cameras were very helpful in getting a restraining order.
 
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Yes, that's definitely good use of camera which I have no issue with.

I do from time to time wonder if a SW will tried to film me during the actual booking and use that to blackmail me :LOL: I am not loaded and not famous so won't be any point of that but imagine say if the client is a famous All Black or something lol
 
Should have smashed his phone after you deleted it That’s actually fucked!

I’m sure some girls film blokes without their consent also.

I’ve had working girls (one who posts on here) ask me to film pov for only fans and have wondered if there’s some cameras set up in the room.
 
@Harry H and @Banana, is it possible you’d want to amend your comments so they don’t mention how the client recorded the girl? I’d hate for someone to come on here and read your comments and for them to then take inspiration and decide to try that approach themselves. As much as I’d like to believe none of the gentlemen on here would give it a try, I, along with most other working girls have had enough encounters of catching men recording us that it’s better to err on the side of caution
 
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This is an interesting topic. Firtsly might I say I dont condone secret recordings. I think its a little mean to invade someones privacy like that. However you mention Illegal AF. If AF means as fuck. Then degrees of legality don't come into it. Its either legal or it isn't. Remember Michael Forbes Luxons press secretary ? Police didn't charge him saying it didn't reach the requirements for criminality therefore charges could not be laid. They gave him a stern warning and asked him to delete the files. The other matter to consider is when a punter rocks up to a booking it's very likely he is being filmed with out his consent. Do punters have confidence the video won't be shared or witnessed by a 3rd party. Say for example the boyfriend of one of the sex workers waiting for her to finish her shift. Or maybe the security system is playing up and they get a geek in to fix it. Or the hard drive winds up at the dump with data still on it.
For a sex worker a sure fire way for a worker to guarantee no recordings is to have a no devices to be brought to the booking rule.
 
There’s a difference between being recorded on a security camera entering and leaving a facility much like you would at a supermarket, gas station etc and an intimate visual recording being made. Without this intending to come across rudely, no sex worker I’ve met has any interest in watching a recording of you or sharing a recording of you entering or leaving a facility with anyone else. The only times footage on a camera is viewed, in my experience, is when it is required to be sent to the police.

If you are implying that you believe intimate visual recordings are being made of punters within the room in a state of undress then I would suggest reporting this to the police and I hope whoever has done so is prosecuted under the full force of the law.

It is not simply a little mean to invade someone’s privacy like that, it is against the law and is prosecuted as sexual assault.

Sections 216G, 216H, 216I of the crimes act 1961 relate to intimate visual recordings, including that you can face upto 3 years jail time for such. I would suggest familiarising yourself with them if you aren’t aware that recording someone naked without their consent is illegal.

I am not familiar enough with Michael Forbes case to speak on why that may not have resulted in a prosecution being made but I can assure you that to record someone during a state of undress or intimate act is illegal and the police take it very seriously.
 
Piper didn't say it was a visual recording. She said recording. Piper might like to clarify ? If it was video then that is different. In the Forbes case it was I believe an audio recording. He did have other images photos etc but they were taken out in public. And recording punters at a brothel isn't like going to a gas station is it. Because going to a gas station doesn't have the potential to cause harm to the individual.
 
As I mentioned, the only times footage is viewed in my experience is if it’s being handed to the police. Don’t break the law and no one will have cause to view it. The cameras are in place only for safety reasons. I am also unaware of any cases in recent years where footage of a punter entering or leaving a brothel has been used to cause harm so I would assume this is an extremely unlikely scenario, the same cannot be said when it comes to intimate visual recordings being made both in and out of the sex worker industry and being kept for either personal use or released as ‘revenge porn’ - of which there are different sections of the crimes act to which this applies. However if you are aware of cases where this footage has been used to cause harm I would be interested to know.

If you are implying that you believe intimate visual recordings are being made of punters within the room in a state of undress then I would suggest reporting this to the police and I am sorry that has happened to you.
 
Everything about seeing a sex worker is permission based and fee based. If the services are not advertised or offered they are not available. If they are advertised and/or offered then applicable fees apply. There is no situation where filming/recording a sex worker without their consent can ever be OK. And the reverse equally applies re the punter being recorded/filmed without prior consent.

Then if consent is granted, what are the terms of that consent? Private use only, not for distribution or sharing, not posted online etc. But little or no control, just the trust that those terms will be adhered to. Ergo why very few providers offer filming as a service.
 
Who cares if your being filmed entering or exiting an establishment. This is done for safety reasons to protect the workers and if you have a problem with it id be looking at you sideways.

Any party filming with hidden cameras in the room without consent should be a jail sentence.

If the footage of a punter entering or exiting a premises is used for anything else other than safety reasons if there is an issue with that punter during a booking, then the business should loose its licence to operate and depending on the seriousness's.. eg bribery, also a potential jail sentence
 
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I was talking to my cousin's husband today. The uproar for those planning to visit America is submitting up to 5 years of your social media to border services. Tell me about the safety of border security and the country? Back in September we did a family trip to Shanghai & Beijing. Upon flying in, I had no issues of my face being photographed and all my finger prints taken. I guess America wants to step in the direction of what China has been doing.
 
They photograph and finger print you in the US too...
And for the past few years they have asked for social media usernames when you apply for an ESTA (visa waiver).
I'm not clear exactly what the new requirements are. But travel in the US is actually more annoying than most places, including China.

Used to be the other way round before 9/11.😭
 
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I don't think anyone has implied this. Just as many providers prefer to obscure their identities in photos, many clients would be unhappy about such footage becoming public. Just because the footage is not intimate, doesn't mean that it can't cause harm.

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I imagine that most clients would accept that benefit of such recordings to the safety of providers outweighs the potential drawbacks for clients, but it would be nice to know that footage is securely destroyed within a reasonable time frame, perhaps a day or two, and that no-one who who doesn't understand that discretion works both ways is able to view the footage, which as @Slippin Joey says includes but is not limited to drivers, technicians, and literally anyone if the storage is not professionally wiped when the DVR is discarded.
 
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