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Multishot as extra for 1hr bookings?

Multishot as extra for 1hr bookings?
TajMarbel said:
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You mentioned that you have punted in the past but it is not something that is currently part of your life?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and you seem to have have a negative outlook on the industry and how it operates on both the workers and punters side. What do you want to add to this forum by participating with punters and ladies? At the moment you seem to be intentionally making a bit of noise with some of your views.

Sex is a massive part of humanity that has been with us since day 1. There is a reason that it is one of the oldest professions in the world. Most people enjoy sex and we see this as a bit of fun, it is great that we have the option of having fun with some beautiful ladies without any strings attached. There's a lot of variety for us to choose from and we get to meet new people that we would not interact with in our normal day to day life.

You mentioned that woman shouldn't sell there bodies? Who ever has a job in this world is selling there bodies, time and brains for money. We could be doing physical work in the world of construction or we could be less physical if we had a job teaching, finance or health sector.
 
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FullyShaved said:
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I think this is an under-appreciated reason to be honest. It has come up in SW conversation that there is no small percentage of clients who will expect a second round only to find their bodies can't keep up with their psychology. And that's definitely normal and okay... but what isn't is having them blame us for failing to inspire a second round. I think most clients know that we can't fight biology, but unfortunately there are a few that don't. I think for them it feels like a failure of their own masculinity, at the same time as feeling like they didn't get good value. Now, I have sympathy for both of those feelings, but that doesn't mean I'm okay with being blamed for someone else's body being uncooperative. By listing it as an extra, a client has to stop and think about their chances of getting it before committing to it, which means we're less likely to have to deal with the above. Or at least if we do, we get compensated for it.

As an aside, pretty much every extra has a reason behind the cost, even if that reason isn't immediately apparent to clients. Sometimes it's about risk - often the risk of sex injuries more than the risk of STI's. For most it's that what is being requested is extra admin or extra energy. Despite what many think, most of us take our work seriously, and for us to stay in the industry we have to work sustainably - the more high-energy, high-admin bookings we take, the less overall bookings we have across a week. So yes, that needs to be compensated accordingly (and don't take that as us not enjoying them! I'm sure we all have examples of great sex that ended in divine exhaustion)

To return to multishots, personally, I prefer to include them as it makes up for not really taking half-hour appointments. I also kind of get a kick out of them - like I know it's about biology, but it's still hard not to take it as a compliment :sneaky: Other's feel differently, and that's okay too - I would argue single shots are much more common, so there's no sense including it in a base package. As always, it's about finding the right match for you.
 
ElodieEvans said:
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Basically all clients pay extra because of the not so good clients.
ElodieEvans said:
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So if you want a decent vigorous booking over 30mins see a part time indie SWer
ElodieEvans said:
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“Other’s feel differently, and that’s ok too”not sure this is ok or beneficial to clients or good SWers. Think this causes issues for punters in inconsistency and unclear pricing/ads.

I get the blaming of clients most times but if clients don’t see any sign of SWers trying to improve professionalism it not helpful.

Lot of good points in your comment but I think you are glossing over the hustle side of pricing a bit. Be a lot easier if in Adverts SWers made it clear their preference for bookings instead of hedging their bets.
 
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Pat said:
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The hustle culture is always gonna be in the industry regardless of how you, I or anyone else feels about it I'm afraid. But I don't think charging more for certain things is always because of a hustle mindset. Often workers use their pricing as a reflection of their own preferences, I certainly do.

For example, I offer a permanent "special" price on my 2hr which is noticeably cheaper because I enjoy that booking length. And for multishot, I include it in a 45min or longer at no extra charge but *will* charge extra if someone wants it in a 30min because that becomes very rushed and GO GO GO ROUND TWO and I'm not a fan of that vibe as a long booking girlie. The extra cost is a "he either just books longer so it's less rushed (my preference)/sticks to one shot in a 30, or I get paid extra" and it's essentially a win win situation.

I agree on the clear pricing though. I think having a clear policy on multishots is the answer. If a worker charges for multishot and you don't think that's fair, or it puts the total price too high or whatever reason, at least you know that and save yourself (and her) wasted time and text a different worker who offers a pricing model/service that's more to your tastes.
 
Pat said:
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Hmm, I may have mis-represented my position here: the point I was making is that we all manage our energy levels - if we don't have that energy, we won't take that booking. Regardless of work style, every single one of us knows that over-stretching yourself is a false economy.

Yes this applies to agency workers too - they still choose their shifts and they still get to turn down bookings. I would regulaly cut my shift at the club, and there wasn't a lot management could do about it. I really wish clients would stop trying to guess at our workloads/energy levels/where in our day their appointment lands. You're wrong 9 times out of 10.

Pat said:
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I'd love an example of unclear pricing structures? I feel like I've made mine as clear as possible, and yet I still get questions about my rates and whether or not I do multishots. And it is okay to ask questions, or pass on a provider if their ad confuses you! Its just that a huge complaint of workers is the sheer volume of enquires that suggests a lack of reading comprehension (or even a lack of trying) And this is true for everyone, no matter how clearly they word their ad.

I don't think its unclear to have tierd pricing structures: moving to an all inclusive package means upping rates, which most people won't pay when they just want the basics. But we're happy to go the extra mile if requested, so that needs to be mentioned too. The only time I've been confused is for providers who do both SM and FS, with packages for both. What would be great is if advertising platforms allowed us to format things in a way that made things clearer.
 
ElodieEvans said:
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I yearn for this, NZG is so limited on how many pricing options you can display individually but I don't want to put my pricing in the main bulk of my ad. If your ad is too long it becomes a "I ain't reading all that."

I only do standard or GFE too, it must be so hard to clearly display standard, GFE, PSE and SM all on one ad clearly. The limitations of the platform are setting that up for failure imo.
 
Ivy Brooke said:
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You not interested in politics by any chance? 🤣

Ivy Brooke said:
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Blah blah yes Ms SmartyPants your advert is clear we have been here before. Nice bit of promo in your response 🤣

Long booking girlies are great but it’s not always clear. Then you try asking about rates for multi-hour and get an instant 🐱 🐍
Ivy Brooke said:
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Think shortest booking was 45 mins don’t do often. Don’t think I’ve booked anyone with complex add ons. No shot, one shot or more doesn’t bother me to be fair.
 
ElodieEvans said:
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Do that often can cost money to figure it out the hard way.
ElodieEvans said:
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Yeah but we are men, females don’t use bullet points well 🤣
ElodieEvans said:
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Be even easier if a punter could put out an SOS 🆘 with what I they were after and pick what offers came in. If miss old ******* so much easier than scrolling adverts.

I have pointed out an example in here before but I was been a bit mean so deleted. Have examples from booking comms over the years but ain’t using that. I’m ok with a bit of self sabotage but….. using real examples wouldn’t end well for me.

A recent booking I left to the SWer to design on the night. I gave a 💵 range, my likes and booking length preferences it worked well with them. Wouldn’t trust everyone like that.
 
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Pat said:
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Unironically, yes hahaha. I would genuinely have considered pursuing this as a career option if I hadn't been a SWer. People are pretty open minded comparitively in 2025 but I think supporting a retired hooker as a politician would be pushing the limits of that open mindedness.
 
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Pat said:
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Trust me, clients self sabotage plenty often too with their comms. At the end of the day, I can only control my own advertising and comms, Elodie can only control hers and so on. Just as you can't stop other clients sending us "hi ???" Six times in 10min.

Could you say that, in your opinion, workers in the industry could be a little more professional and clear in their comms and pricing? Sure, absolutely. But most of us on here who are engaging in these convos with you are pretty unlikely to be the workers who have huge room for improvement on that front 😅 Consider the bad communication an extra layer of vetting for yourself, if you don't like the comms you probably won't like the service.
 
Pat said:
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I would love to use bullet points! I hate writing ad copy, but bullet points feel *******. The problem is they can read cold or like the worker has a hustle mindset, and thats not what I do, so I feel like I have to fluff it up or I'll push away exactly the kinds of clients I like.

And to back up @Ivy Brooke, yeah its really hard to be comprehensive in your pricing with the formats being what they are, and then NZG limits word count for the body of the text too. I was so mad with the redesign, because on the old one I could list GFE/PSE prices for each booking length. But on the new one I had to drop that due to the formatting making it hard to read.

On escortify, I'm required to list a rate for half hours even though I don't do them, and then my additional hours rates have to go to the bottom of the page where no one sees them. I swear sometimes it feels like we can't win 😂
 
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