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AvaMILF said:
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I’m not sure why everyone is getting pissed of about Ava’s post. Clients often review B&S, crap service, SWer no shows etc. I don’t see what the problem is with a SWer posting their issues and calling out a review specially when they haven’t derailed said review.

She started a new thread with an example of a review which I had seen and thought was pretty stupid. Apart from that no other fingers were pointed.

The responses now seem to make it like punters are supporting that punter and their actions.

I’ve posted on this before somewhere that I have had plenty of cancellations the majority made sense. Also mentioned that some were the direct result of previous shit clients.

Also made a comment in here somewhere that things would be better if Punters called out other shit Punters. Also that SWers could do more to improve professionalism of other SWers.
 
I think the client part of the forum members are just tired of reading this same rant yet again. We know being a no-show is a dickish thing to do. It goes for any service industry. People who do it because they're flaky justify it to themselves. People who do it to be an asshole don't care.

I'd also like to speak to the recurring sentiment from SWers that this forum is just for assholes who got banned from AF. I used to participate on AF, and always tried to be polite, civil, and not go into crass detail in my reviews. I stopped bothering because my threads always got shat on whatever I said, always by the same core group of long-time members. If I posted a positive review, I got accused of being fake, or not giving enough detail. If I posted a negative review, I got accused of being fake, and sometimes deleted. This site has plenty of assholes, too, but it is at least a somewhat community functional for now.

And we know that providers have their own private channels for sharing information on clients, which clients do not have. I would love for there to be a review forum where everyone is well-behaved and classy, but we can't have nice things.
 
kennyt said:
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If you can't distinguish between talking shit online, and interfering in someone's business in an arena where costs of fake bookings are high in terms of time, loss of other business, and other expenses, you're deranged.

Doing that sort of thing is an invitation to (quite rightly) get your mobile number posted in some public forum. Or a fake M4M hookup advert on Locanto. Stick to wasting the time of people who deserve it. Like rental agents
 
The funny thing is I think everyone is in violent agreement. No shows without the courtesy of any notification, no matter what the situation are bloody annoying and just fucking rude. As some posters have pointed out this is not just restricted to the sex industry.

I am sure I am no different from most people, I have lost count of the times I have had appointments fall through because the tradie did not show for a variety of reasons. I get it, shit happens, so tell me beforehand, I might not be happy but I am sure as shit less pissed off than if you do not have the decency to pick up the phone! I had a situation recently (far from the first) where the time for a tradie to arrive came and went, eventually I ring their office and say where is he? Oh he is sick today. Ever heard of letting me know? Oh sorry, we are short staffed today. Wow, as if that is my problem.

So to recap yes anyone who does not show up for a prearranged commitment without any communication is an asshole. That includes punters, sex workers and any other Uncle/Aunty Tom/Tomasina Cobbly.
 
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I’ve been ghosted. Never done a no show. Cancelled with a reason I have communicated.
Ghosting / no shows has been across a range of industry’s ie hairdressers, Physio, sex workers, etc.
Some simple follow-up communication had often solved the issue.
What causes the anger is the lack of communication. Some sw have contacted me afterwards to apologise. The agency has offered an alternative ( great first booking and she became a regular), one indy apologise as family issue ( totally understandable) another though as it was a late impulse booking on my part ie 30 min notice that o actually was a time waster. When I did show she had left to pick her kids up. A few more comms and she offered a discount for the next booking. I have had no issues with the above.
Annoyance is at those who have no regard for my time. It’s a two way street.
 
Dee said:
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Thanks Dee. Yes its always interesting and illuminating when the 'group think' kicks in, and the 'burn the badly behaved hooker who dares to have an opinion about things that are genuine concerns for us' takes hold. These types of 'men', are so proficient at telling on themselves, and letting us know exactly who we should steer well clear of professionally. So it does us a favour to be able to clock them more than anything.

Ironically some of these are the very same people that a few weeks ago in the 'Malibu' thread, that kept telling us to 'improve your screening', 'get better security' and 'take more care'. But seem to have no issue at all with people changing their numbers to effectively force us into seeing them when we have made it perfectly clear we have no interest in doing so.

Under section 17 of the PRA 2003 - We have the 'Right to refuse = A person may, at any time, refuse to provide, or to continue to provide, a commercial sexual service to any other person.' By deceiving us by way of changing their numbers, they are denying us that right. Which in essence is breaking the law.
 
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kennyt said:
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If you haven't worked it out yet precious, I am not remotely concerned if I piss off certain types of 'men'. If they personalise or get their panties in a bunch because something Ive said has struck a cord...GOOD! I would never wish anyone of that way of thinking to darken my doorway anyway.

I have plenty of clients that book me specifically because they love that Im feisty and unafraid to say what needs to be said about what it's like on our side of the fence. I know it may cause your tiny brain to malfunction, but some men find strong, formidable, take no BS women very attractive. 🤯🤯🤯 Its ok pet, you can have a cuppa tea and a lie down if you need to.

What on earth are you talking about, I love my job, theres a reason Ive been in for the nearly 3 decades that I have, I feel lucky to still be able to do it in the limited capacity that I am. But every job has its pitfalls and negatives, and in most other jobs you would have the protection of unions etc to help set appropriate standards of conduct and back you if you are being unfairly treated. Think on that for a wee sec.

Just because I have no fucks left to give about how some dickheads perceive me when Im speaking my truth, doesn't mean I run home crying and wanting to quit lol.
Quite the opposite. The messages of support and thanks I get from other providers who do not feel able to put themselves out there in this way fuels my resolve that it matters to the people who I actually care about. 💕
 
I wonder how many of the no shows are actually other WG's trying to hobble competitors during pretty tough times. It has certainly been a thing in the past.

As for people not showing the simple courtesy of phoning if they are delayed, I suspect if they have reached adulthood and still lack this basic skill. my guess is they will never develop it. Pissing and moaning about them achieves nothing other than make those who do it appear intolerant. I get that it feels good to vent, but venting in a space frequented predominantly by your customer base is possibly not the best way to enhance business.
 
curious said:
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As Ive stated more times than I care to remember on this and the other forum, and in my last post even, men who think, behave and condone this shit and accept our screening efforts being fucked with etc are not 'my client base', far from it! I would choose not to see them even if they offered to pay me double! Not all money is GOOD money sweets.

The fabulous clients that I choose to see actually respect women and the job we do, and would never think to treat us like this. Some of you really think that all our clients are forum uses. The vast majority of the clients we see have no idea these sites even exist, and would be disinterested in participating even if they did.
 
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