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kennyt said:
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Yes they do provide a service to us that is with strangers, which is why they try and implement measures to try and weed out the bad punters, similar to how we discuss bad experiences or b&s profiles on this forum.

I wouldn't want to specualte what they are scared of posting and how this could potentially impact them. But there were a handful of them that sent something similar. If a worker cops this amount of flak for telling her side of the discussion I can see how it can put others off.

It's fine for everyone to have there own opinions but sometimes we get a bit heated during a discussion and it turns into a popcorn fest for everyone. Some find it entertaining and others lurk in the shadows potentially shaking the heads at some comments thrown about.
 
Sahara said:
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I think you touched on the aspect that has ignited debate resulting in a degree of us and them with some on the thread...the post sounding like a 'lecture' and parties getting defensive. As I have said in a couple of previous comments on this thread it is the BEHAVIOR of the person responsible for the NO SHOW that is in question. And I have seen no one that condones that sort of behavior. And as stated there is probably no one that has not been the recipient of a NO SHOW without the courtesy of prior communication...in all aspects of our lives...and where as the affected party we feel totally pissed off.

I strongly suspect the posters on this thread are not the sort of characters to do a No Show on a WG, afterall some are habitual punters, and this sort of behavior gets them blocked and and put on the WG register of shame. And none of them want that!
 
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Just think what a really interesting, valuable, and respectful discussion we could have all had around the issue of time wasting and how we could minimize it in the sex industry. Well that's what it could have been if someone sensible had actually started the discussion in a balanced, diplomatic, and rational way instead of a emotionally charged provocative rant oozing with misandry. Such a shame, I think we could have come up with some productive ideas. 💩
 
JohnnyPunter said:
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We can still turn things around, this is an issue for punters and sex workers. And is probably something that will never go away given there can be horrible everywhere and in all industries.

Yes the discussion can get heated and sometimes we say stuff in the moment. I think we all want the best for everyone, there is some good knowledge shared the forum.
 
downstairs_diplomat said:
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The premise of AvaMILF's complaint is what happens AFTER A booking is made. When you go through the process of screening new clients and commit to a booking, then the No-Show (or Ghosting) can happen. Any talk before the booking, on how you feel, or you had a sick day, or basically a 'what-ifs' situation are just semantics and not the issue at hand here.

Really, it all comes down to the level of honesty on both sides of the party. Is it really that hard to send a txt to say the booking is a no go??? Perhaps so out of being shameful or more likely, "I don't care..." - go try this in any other industry and you won't last long.

Look at doctor appointments, if people can't make it, then it's courteous to call reception to cancel it. But for some customers in the SW industry you have a level of disrespect that don't care and feel it's no big deal they have done a no-show because the woman is selling sex and can go on to the next customer. Likewise, in the case of ghosting, the SW feels that there's no need to communicate with a client on a booked time because simply, well they're just another stranger and there's no shortage of others to keep her future booking full.
 
Curb My Enthusiasm said:
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Turn things around by changing the attitude of both SW and client? I don't think so. Does a popular restaurant have the problem of no-shows on the bookings they've made? No because if someone does not show up, their table goes open to someone standing in line outside. Now why can't the SW do this? Have a call list of clients who can arrive on short notice? She doesn't lose our on potential income and another man is satisfied.
 
sbq said:
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I agree that this sounds like a good idea if you think about it from a certain direction*, but most of the issues that we as punters complain about come down to when those we're paying optimize for exactly this sort of approach, where they're trying to stay continuously booked for as much of the day as they can possibly physically take:
  1. texting during bookings (got to keep an eye on what's coming up, and make sure you're booked as continuously as possible)
  2. OR dealing with some sort of intermediary rather than directly with the worker and having very little idea as to what they're up for
  3. rushed bookings
  4. a lower level of real intimate and personal connection than I have with the workers at my local KFC
  5. turning up on time and for 10-20 minutes for the last guy to finish showering and for the worker to wipe a couple baby wipes over the puss... or from rushing back from the supermarket or Chinese takeaways to get food in a short break in the day
  6. ...just generally low fees but low QoS in general
Some might call this the 'B&S approach'. Which certainly isn't unique to Asian or Brazilian SWs working here illegally, nor is it universal amongst them, and it sounds like a great way to have thoroughly fucked mentals and be awful to deal with- but if you don't have a reputation to look after and you're just trying to make as much money in a particular region, it's the best way to do that.

Personally, I'd rather that this not be the norm. Which is not to say that you shouldn't mention being keen to be informed by a touring regular if they're in town- might get a discount into the bargain.

* Heck, I believe there's even been a post on this forum in the recent past from someone complaining that a SW had sent a text to them a couple months after a prior booking didn't work out, and they'd indicated a interest in making a booking at a later date... but they found the later solicitation unwelcome
 
JohnnyPunter said:
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My 2 cents worth would be if starting a new thread have a very tight frame of reference for the topic at hand. Otherwise as usual it goes off at all sorts of tangents and the protagonists get on their respective bandwagons and hobby horses.

For instance in regards topics for discussion "Effective Screening Techniques to Weed Out Timewasters"..."How to Spot a B&S" "No Show Impact on WG and what you do about it" "Ditto Impact on Punters". They may not be worded very well but you get my drift. Keep the parameters tight and anyone veers off at a tangent, shoot them down and haul them back to the topic at hand.

Preaching to the converted.
 
FullyShaved said:
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Establishing a code of conduct won't work because neither the SWs or the punters care. Unlike having a good restaurant to go to or seeing your dentist or doctor, we are talking about an entirely different kind of relationship here.

I mean there is simply no foolproof way, and there are no parameters to go by. All in all the outcome is as only as good as the honesty of the client and SW. As a girl off Locanto told me she tries to weed out time wasting no-shows by reading in between the lines in the txt msg content but that never works all the time. She recently had a case where the guy ripped her off by showing her fake DC bank payment to her account, only to discover the payment never came through after the service she gave. Then months later, the guy engaged with her by txt msg (and as we all know many girls change their ph# and call names), established a booking and when she arrived to meet with the guy, he realized it was her he had ripped off and ran out the door. But the joke was on me because later that day, she ripped me off by not fulfilling her side of our agreement after I gave her the $ and basically, it was her that ran out of the door.
 
Jessie45 said:
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I hear your sanguine tone and your ability to accept such situations with equanimity, and give you credit for both. I wish I could approach these things like a Buddhist, but, unfortunately, that’s just not me.

In terms of women not showing up on time, that’s a management issue. Any prudent manager should require a worker to be on site a minimum of 60 minutes ahead of a scheduled booking. That requirement being in place, your notice of cancellation, would be not less than 60 minutes.

Now, 60 minutes ain’t much, but it’s better than 9 minutes.
 
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