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Sugarbaby/overnight questions
I think the problem is lack of population.
NZ doesn't have many people, so potential posters are too scared to offer.
The choices overseas are far greater - but still a hellavalotta admin - and you gotta look half-decent too or you won't get far
 
I personally continue to have good results from Seeking, Set up a good profile- kept it short and concise and used the right words they want to hear, chatted a few lines and brought them out of the app to ******** or ********. The SA app sucks, is slow and other users said the same. Chatted, sexted, got them exicted up and book a nice 4* + hotel for the day and met them for a few hours. It was nice, drinks, music, shower, fuck and have convos, fuck again. The experience was good and the arrangement was mutually beneficial as well.

I'm booked with another one this weekend, a mom who is horny as through sexting. I always keep the momentum going and build it up to the day and just explode it in the hotel. She is excited and have been messaging me to meet up. The Arrangement works well. Clear communication is what matters and be confident when you negotiate a working deal. When they know you budge easily, they know they can play around.

I have another kiwi right now in Sydney for vacation, flying in next month, so hopefully that works. Though I feel she is a bit expensive for the time, but is a sexy as fit and toned woman. Not sure if I ll spend that much as $1k for a few hours is pretty much hiring an escort for 3 hours, which is expensive

Talking with a couple of them in Hamilton (Uni Students), which I'm interested to look into if I need a change in scenary. They are busy with their schedule, so are less demanding and only hits me up if they want to a relief from their stress.

I'm talking with a few and probably has a few potential line ups from diff ethnicity here in Auckland region, creating a variety of bangs for bucks, and building a good portfolio.

The arrangement works well and what I like about is I don't have a clock ticking like how it is when you book with escorts. Both parties are happy, both relax and just go with the flow. You get to do a lot and just set the mood going for hours.

All are in for money, and its rare you would find an actual woman to date with not just money in mind. I want drama free and not the ones that need constant meet ups syncing with my work schedule . I make that clear and negotiate a good deal that works out for both of us. Knowing how much I pay for escorts, I ensure it's worth the money I spend for the time I have with them including all costs such as hotel and travel and I don't overpay than what I pay for escorts, and they get to walk away with an extra amount for the week to meet their goals. Some needs guidance, advices and assistance. It depends on what they are there for.

There are a few newly legal girls such as 18,19, 20 aged ones who are into extortion, charging like 300-400 for a coffee. I don't do that. I feel that it is a scam for the time and no response or reply should be expected after the coffee date, leaving me look like a fool having spent 300-400 bucks for a coffee company lol. I have seen the world enough to know what looks like a scam. I'm into intimacy dates, so I make that clear as well when I chat. By reading the profile and pretty much their photos shows what they are after and what would their range be. Besides I don't pay huge amount for an arrangement for a young and inexperienced girl in their 20s. I look up and pay what is ideal as per the average market range for SB-SD relationship, and account age and experience into it. I was surprised it even existed to begin with. The more experienced they are, the more confident they are in what they ask.

Its a thrill for me, chat and meet girls. I haven't done or bothered to do it for a while. So doing for the fun. Sometimes it works, and majority of them it's hard to land a meetup. I message quite a few new profiles everyday, though I feel it's kind of drying up slowly.

Overall, it's a nice experience I would say. It's a big pool especially if you are in Auckland. If you pay for SA premium for a month and put real effort everyday, you'll walk with a few arrangements after some chats and days of talking by the time it expires. It's not ideal for many, the hassle and to be honest, it is sometimes. In short, Escorts are easy to deal with. While SA-SB requires effort to land a good arrangement. Once it's set, it goes on till we break it.

Overall, both are happy, I ensure they are in the arrangement, both find it mutually beneficial. Communication is clear and two consenting adults having a break from their life's drama. I'm happy I can help them in their walk of life.
 
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yoelmathais said:
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Thanks for your informative reply. Seeking is so much more than SDM about $215 NZD per month. I wouldn't have a problem paying that if I knew I would get something out of it but in my eyes I would be paying $215 for ifs and buts. It doesn't seem much more active than SDM, maybe if I got premium a bunch more profiles would magically appear haha. I know if I spent that much for a punt as least I know I would be getting pussy haha. The end of your first paragraph pretty much describes what I'm looking for. 🥲
 
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If you are handsome $500 about right plus drinks /hotel etc so you are out maybe $900 for an afternoon / maybe overnight. Full rawdog civ sex is expected norm. Banged some very cute girls but it's alot of hassle to set up (I hate texting etc). I also get bored of people quickly so it's alot of effort to set up a short time thing.

If you are a fugly ass dude, you are gonna struggle for less than $2k. There are also alot of delusional young girls put there as to how hot they actually are...
 
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There are some desperate ladies on there that seemed to be looking for a relationship which I found weird. They seem to sign up on there hoping to get in a relationship with a rich guy or at least a guy who has money. I had one who was in her 30s with kids who was interested in dating for real with me but it was a hard no for me lol.

It is a good way to kill some time and get a bit of a thrill for those who actually have the time to spare.
 
Anyone with seeking premium please able to check what it looks like down in chch? I signed up and had a look but looks quite dead like only 5 active profiles that meet my criteria in the past month. Trying to figure out if only getting limited results due to being free member and if more profiles will magically pop if I get premium? 🤔
 
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I’ve always been curious with sugar daddying… how do the conversations around sex/money go? Punting has such easy clear lines obviously and on the other end of the spectrum regular dating/hookups have standard rituals. But with SD like do the SB outright say “$1000 to fuck”? How is it made clear what you’re going to do together. Ie date vs actually hooking up? So fascinated haha (but never enough to spend my actual cash lol)
 
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I also would be fascinated to hear any and all stories. My guess would be that just as SW covers a broad range of activities from stripping to phone sex, so too does "sugaring" mean different things to different SBs / SDs. There are ads where the SB wants to be spoiled for sending flirty texts and pix, accounts of PPM that sound like a booking without the time pressure, SBs who want a regular relationship with an allowance, and no doubt more and everything in-between.
 
I'm going away for a couple of nights shortly to a different city in NZ and staying at a 5 star hotel. I've been looking at outcall WGs in the city I'm going to, and even considering an overnighter.

Then I thought that I don't want an overnighter with a stranger. So, I have a regular in Auckland I've been seeing for two years. I'd love to take her away with me. So, I'm considering asking her to come and paying her for two days, with every other expense covered (airfare, hotel, dinners etc). I'll be at a conference for the two days, and she can see the sights. Then at night we hang out. I'd pay her about $2K I think - say $1K per day, perhaps more, I'm not sure. The airfares and accommodation are paid by my business anyway so no great loss there, as are the expenses (drinks, dinner etc). I would much prefer this than spending this on a stranger, considering the risk. If I did take a stranger, I would do some impeccable research.
 
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Yes, I wouldn't consider an overnight with a stranger either. To me, overnight, or all day, only makes sense if we have enough in common to have some interesting conversations, activities, etc.

The price thing can get tricky. Certainly, she may be be happy for part of the payment to be that she gets to go places and do things she enjoys. What I keep in mind, though, is that I don't want her to feel pressured into an arrangement that is depriving her of income she might otherwise have made.
 
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I'd not do a long term (overnight, over many nights) booking with a stranger either.
After all you're going to be in each others company a lot.
I will never be able to afford an overnight, so best of luck to you, and don't take the following comment as shade (it isn't).

Personally, I reckon you'd be pushing shit uphill to get a two night out of town outcall for 2k.
Overnight booking prices for like 12 hours are 2k at the low end and have seen them sit on average at 3k+.
Remember, for you this is a naughty couple of evenings with a lady you enjoy spending time with (and I can't blame you, I'd want to do that myself with my regular if I had the opportunity.), but for her it is a work trip where she has to be 'on' the whole time.
Also she might be potentially missing out on multiple bookings worth upwards of $350 a pop, doesn't take many of those over the course of four days (the day you're travelling to, the two days you're on site and a day travelling back/decompressing) to equal 2k for much lower investment of time and effort on her part.
I get it you're saying that during the day she can do whatever, but I don't think that'd make much of a difference in determining the price that you would likely be quoted.
Looking at one lady who is an indie worker and who sometimes posts here, her fee for 48 hours, which is kind of what you are really proposing is $12,000.
I'm not saying that the lady you have in mind would necessarily charge you 12k, but I think you'd be lucky if it was less than 6k.
The cost of the flights, accommodation and meals is probably irrelevant, as all those things are essentially for you not her, in that those things are just the cost you have to pay to have longer term access to her time.
Afterall she could just stay at home, only have to work like 6 hours over the course of 3 days, without having to be 'on' for nearly as long, and she'd still be $100 ahead on the 2k figure you are thinking of.

I'm happy to be wrong, and I hope it pans out well for you.
You might luck out and she is willing to potentially take a bit of a financial hit because she particularly likes you as a clients, or that she really wants to get out of town for a couple of days.
Those factors might work into the equation.
But the key word is 'might'.
 
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Mackem said:
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It might vary wildly based on the provider. At one extreme, there are those that multiply their hourly rate by the number of hours, and at the other end don't charge for sleeping or social. I guess most will be somewhere in-between, but it will be up to the provider to price it obviously.
 
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